Optuma to run on Arm Based Computers ie Apple M1 or Windows Arm64

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  • #63639
    Mathew
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    Hi Max,

    No, since shifting to 64bit in 2016 we no longer build in 32bit. The issue is that 32bit is vastly limited in memory and speed which is why we rebuilt the code-base for 64bit.

    All the best

    Mathew

    #63645
    Scott
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    Hi Marc,

    Microsoft has been working on the emulator that will allow you to run 64-bit Apps on ARM Windows 10. Here is an article about it – Microsoft Emulator to Run x85 64-bit Windows Apps on ARM Devices Also there is a You Tube clip where they install Parallels on new M1 Mac, and he’s able to run x86 apps, not all were working, but the ones that did, performance was good. That’s a good sign that Optuma might be able to run on ARM Windows 10 once compatibility improves, whether that be a PC or new M1 MAC?

    Would be great to hear your feedback if you have success on either device.

    Cheers Scott

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    #63869
    Yan
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    Hi Marc,

    Microsoft has been working on the emulator that will allow you to run 64-bit Apps on ARM Windows 10. Here is an article about it – Microsoft Emulator to Run x85 64-bit Windows Apps on ARM Devices Also there is a You Tube clip where they install Parallels on new M1 Mac, and he’s able to run x86 apps, not all were working, but the ones that did, performance was good. That’s a good sign that Optuma might be able to run on ARM Windows 10 once compatibility improves, whether that be a PC or new M1 MAC?

    Would be great to hear your feedback if you have success on either device.

    Cheers Scott

    You are talking about a big project who needs multi developpers working for months even years to start with. And the performance might not be garanteed since no one knows how many bugs or situation might have to dealing with…

    Why waste years in waiting while you can build yourself a computer with better hardwares..

    Just opinion..

    #64341
    Marc
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    Hi Guys,

    I’ve just installed Windows10 Arm edition on the M1 Mac. Optuma is compatible and runs well as far as I can tell.

    All the best
    Marc

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    Max
    #64351
    Scott
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    Hey Marc,

    That’s awesome news, music to my ears!! My daughter within next month was looking to buy and M1 so have been trying to hurry her along so I could try.

    Can only assume as the compatibility from Windows emulation improves so should the performance, as the M1 is Apples 1st intro with new silicon, newer versions are only going to be more powerful!

    Thanks again for posting, I’m really looking forward now to upgrading to the 16″ MacBook Pro once it get released. 🙂

    Cheers
    Scott

    #64353
    Scott
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    Marc,

    By the way, what model of M1 do you have, and is it the 8GB or 16GB ram version? I’ve been reading 8GB performs like it’s around 16GB with old Intel, so would be interesting to know which model you have.

    Cheers
    Scott

    #64363
    Marc
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    Hi Scott,

    I have the MBA M1 8gb.

    cheers
    Marc

    #64383
    Max
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    Marc,
    great, did you use the x64 emulator on the Windows10 ARM or did it work right out of the box?
    Best,
    Max

    #64989
    David
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    Hi Mathew and others on this thread,

    I’ve just had a MacBook Air M1 delivered, and found it was the wrong spec (it has 16GB+500Gb; I ordered 16Gb+1Tb). Before I return it, I thought “Hmm, let’s give Optuma a try…”

    I’m typing this on that laptop, and have Optuma running on the laptop at the moment. It’s hardly evidence that would stand up in court, but here’s a screenshot:  Screen Shot 2021-06-16 at 11.23.27 pm

    Just to be completely clear, this is not a supportable config:
    – the current version of Parallels 16 for ARM (downloaded from https://www.parallels.com/blogs/parallels-desktop-apple-silicon-mac/)
    – the Windows Insider preview version of Windows 10 on ARM (downloaded from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windowsinsiderpreviewARM64); build version I’m using is 21354. As of today, there is no supported version of Windows 10 on ARM, and no guarantee Microsoft will eventually deliver one
    – the current version of Optuma (downloaded a few hours ago), running in Windows 8 compatibility mode. It starts, but locks up in Windows 10 ARM mode

    From what I’ve been able to work out over the past hour or so, it seems to be working flawlessly. To be very clear, I absolutely wouldn’t recommend this config to anyone who relied on Optuma – the next update to the Windows preview could easily break it – but as of right now it seems to be working for me. Over the next couple of days I’ll try copying my custom scripts across to see if they work, but having gotten this far I suspect they’ll be fine.

    My Optuma-on-cloud setup runs on Amazon Workspace. It’s not as cheap as Paperspace, but I’ve found it 100% reliable over 3-4 years and I can access it from just about any device (iPad, iPhone, Android Phone, Chromebook, Mac M1+Intel, Windows)

    Regards

    Dave M.

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    Mathew
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    Hi Dave,

    Thanks for letting us know and for the specifics on how you installed it all. It looks very promising indeed.

    Windows can not afford not to support the ARM MAC, so I believe that it is more likely that this Windows product will continue and mature over the coming years.

    I looked at Amazon Workspaces years ago but at the time they were nowhere near as mature as Paperspace. We’ve been looking into working with an online solution to provide Optuma that way instead of as a download for trials and when people have questionable hardware … ahem macs 🙂 In an environment like that we could manage data centrally so the VMs would not need to download their own data. It is just a question of sufficient power and reasonable cost.

    All the best

    Mathew

    #65733
    Rod
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    Hi all,
    Hoping somoneone else has or had this issue and can provide a solution as it’s driving me crazy.
    I’m running a new Mac air , M1 chip 16GB ram, 512 HD , using Paralells with windows 10 and I have the following issue virtually every day when I turn on the mac and when I open Optuma.
    I do have the spanner icon highlighted and the the boxes are ticked . When I hover the mouse over any bar chart the data file properties box wont appear . If I click it once it just gives me the date down the bottom that I clicked on and just leaves a little x on the bar where I clicked.
    I have to completely close down the mac and re open everything again and then I can sometimes get the data box to open ok. I have previously added in the fix from Darren,  https://help.optuma.com/kb/faq.php?id=1194 so that wasnt the issue. Darren advised me to add onto this post.
    Look forward to anyones solutions !

    Thanks
    Rod

    #65763
    Rod
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    After playing around a while I found that after I turn the Mac Air on, leave it alone for 5 mins then open Parallels leave it for 5 mins and then open Optuma  and let it download the data and wait a minute I can then open any exisiting workbook chart and everything is fine.
    There seems to be some sort of time issue with Parallels or Windows 10 on ARM after turning on the Mac Air  M1 .
    In future I think using Paperspace will be the way to go .

    Cheers
    Rod

    #65765
    David
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    Hi Rod and Mathew,

    I’m not seeing the problem Rod’s reported – I can reboot my 16Gb Mac Air M1, fire up Parallels then fire up Windows/ARM, then Optuma – no delay required other than waiting for each step to finish.

    However, if I click “Download History” on the Download Data History screen, it then goes into limbo. I’ve waited 20 mins or so but it doesn’t come back. I have to go into Task Manager and kill Optuma, then I can start it again.

    On the other hand, if I don’t try to Download History on that screen, I can continue opening Optuma, then bring up any chart I like and download history on that chart. As I only watch and trade a small number of markets, I can live with that. It’d be a lot more painful if I was tracking lots of different markets

    On the plus side, my M1 Mac Air is noticeably faster and easier on battery than my 2020 MacBook Pro (pre-M1), as well as being about 1/2 the weight. I can easily run the Air off battery all day, whereas I’m lucky to get 3-4 hours out of my Pro. That’ll be important to me if life ever gets back to normal and we can start travelling again.

    Dave M.

    #65773
    Matthew
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    Hi David,

    Can you please reach out to [email protected] with the data download issue.  There is some additional logging we can set up to identify where the issue is occurring and investigate it further.

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