February 21, 2018 at 9:50 pm #44811
I have a new tool recommendation for planets when they are stationary.
It would be great to have a tool like “Planetary Retrograde” for planets when they are stationary.
The name of the new tool would be of course “Planetary Stationary” and should function and looking like the “Planetary Retrograde” tool. But instead of displaying the retrograde periods of the planets in colored bars, the colored “Planetary Stationary” bars should display when a planet is stationary.
ThomasFebruary 21, 2018 at 11:12 pm #44815
a addendum to my new tool recommendation “Planetary Stationary”.
I know of course that on the day a planet goes retrograde it is “Stationary Retrograde” and on the day it goes direct again it its “Stationary Direct”.
The speed of a planet can easily be viewed with the tool “Planetary Speed”.
So with the tools “Planetary Retrograde” and “Planetary Speed” it is already possible to know when a planet is stationary.
BUT what I want is a tool like “Planetary Aspects” that shows a colored bar when the planet is “Stationary Retrograde” AND “Stationary Direct” WITH AN ORB that can be customized like in the tool “Planetary Aspects”.
In this way I should have a colored bar that shows when a planet goes retrograde and direct with an orb of e.g. 0.25 degrees.
If I would set in the new tool “Planetary Stationary” the orb to 0 degrees the new tool would only display two vertical lines on the days the planet goes retrograde and direct. This would be the same like using the tool “Planetary Aspects” and setting the orb to 0 degrees, Optuma would then only display a vertical line when the aspect is exact.
Setting the orb to e.g. 0.25 degrees in the new tool “Planetary Stationary” would show a colored bar around the dates when the planet goes retrograde and direct like in the tool “Planetary Aspects” where the beginning of the orb is the “Entry” and the end of the orb is the “Leaving” of the orb of the aspect.
I hope this addendum clarifies some confusion about my new tool recommendation when a planet is stationary.
ThomasFebruary 21, 2018 at 11:41 pm #44819
- Topics: 14
- Replies: 773
- Posts: 787
You can do this now with a quick script.
- Add a “Show Bar” tool.
- Set the script to “PVAL(PLANET=[Venus], VALUE=Longitude Speed) Crosses 0”
- Change the Show Bar “Display” in the properties to be a “Line”
You can save this to your tool bar by going to the Show Bar Actions and selecting “Add to Toolbar”
Hope that helps
Mathew.February 22, 2018 at 2:10 am #44835
thanks for your replay. Your short script works fine.
But there are two features “missing”:
1) – only lines are drawn, there is no “orb”. In some way the script is the same as the “Planetary Retrograde” tool but only a vertical line at the beginning and at the end of the retrograde period is drawn. That is on the other hand what I want BUT I want also the orb period around the “vertical line” as a colored bar like in the tool “Planetary Aspects”.
2) – no future vertical lines are drawn. This is the most important “missing” feature. The script draws only vertical lines when there is also a price bar available. Ok this is the feature of the “Show Bar” tool, when there is no bar there is no show bar, that is logical. BUT knowing the future planetary stationary dates in a really important information!
Last but not least I want mentioned that even when I check “Line Over All Views” in the “Show Bar” properties settings the lines are not drawn from the top to the bottom of the chart IF I use a “Price Scale Margin (%)” of more than 0%. It would be perfect if the vertical lines would be drawn form top to the bottom of the chart even if I use a “Price Scale Margin (%)” of e.g. 5% and “Line Over All Views” is checked.
Thanks again a lot,
ThomasFebruary 22, 2018 at 3:28 am #44839
- Topics: 14
- Replies: 773
- Posts: 787
Re 1: How do you define the orb? Each planet moves at different speeds and so defining stationary orb will be interesting. Here I am using this script
ABS(PVAL(PLANET=[Mercury], VALUE=Longitude Speed)) < 0.1
Note that I am taking the absolute value “ABS” of the whole PVAL function and then saying that it is true when that value is less than 0.1. In this image the lines are still there for when it crosses 0. You can select multiple tools by using the CTRL key as you click on them. Then you can add them all to the tool bar together.
Re 2: Again, if we use a “Show View” instead, then it will show in the future. I forgot that Show Bars are limited like that.
Re Price Margin: Unfortunately that is something that may seem simple but is a major project to change and we can not justify the development expense to do so.
Hope that helps
Mathew.February 22, 2018 at 8:22 am #44843
thank you very much for your efforts.
I think I have no resolved some issues about planetary stationary:
1) – as you mentioned the speed of every planet is different so what is the orb of the speed. There is no one. I have solved this issue using an absolute difference of the planets speed. This absolute difference for each planet is not the same and had therefore to be set for every planet individually.
I have slightly modified your script in this way:
PVAL(PLANET=[Saturn], VALUE=Longitude Speed, GMT=-5:00) Crosses 0
This script is for the stationary retrograde date and stationary direct date.
PVAL(PLANET=[Saturn], VALUE=Longitude Speed, GMT=-5:00) Crosses 0.02
This script is for the entry of the stationary retrograde orb AND for the exit of the stationary direct orb.
PVAL(PLANET=[Saturn], VALUE=Longitude Speed, GMT=-5:00) Crosses -0.02
This script is for the exit of the stationary retrograde orb AND for the entry of the stationary direct orb.
The crossing value has to be set for each planet individually, for Saturn I use 0.02. So for every planet’s stationary orb period there are three scripts necessary! But that doesn’t matter or is there a way to make this three scripts into one?
I have attached two charts one using the “Show Bar” tool and one using the “Show View” tool. As you mentioned the “Show View” tool calculates the dates into the future.
2) – So far so fine BUT now the tricky issue for me begins. How do I get the “Show View” lines into the price bar as in the “Show Bar” tool?
I can of course drag the “Show View” line in the layer of the price chart layer but the scaling is the problem as you can see in the screenshot “Planetary Stationary Show View Example in Price Chart.png”.
Can this problem be solved?
3) – The next issue. Is it possible to shade/coloring the “space” between the entry and exit stationary period as the orbs in “Planetary Aspects”? In your example you colored the orb green. How did you do that?
In the best possible way the planetary stationary orb should look like the orbs of the “Planetary Aspects” tool with future date calculations.
Please explain your solution as clear as possible. I am not a programmer.
Concerning the “Price Margin” issue. That is of course not so important. I didn’t know that such a small issue makes such a lot of work.
I hope I do not make you a lot of work. A lot of thanks in advance.
ThomasFebruary 22, 2018 at 8:37 am #44859
- Topics: 3
- Replies: 67
- Posts: 70
Looking at your screen shot you have all of the Show View tools in the same layer as the underlying chart.
To have them display without affecting the chart scale you need to create a new layer, move the Show View tools to that layer, then unlink it.
I’ve recorded a quick video example of how this is done, you can view the video by clicking here.
You can then click on the Show View, go to the Properties panel on the left hand side and modify the plot style to Shaded Step. This will create the green orb as per Mathews example. You can modify the orbs transparency and colour from the properties panel as well.February 22, 2018 at 9:59 am #44863
Hi Matthew and Mathew,
thank you all a lot. I got it, its perfect. See my screenshot.
I have change the absolute difference from 0.02 to 0.0125 for Saturn.
ThomasFebruary 22, 2018 at 11:43 am #44879
I am here again but this time with a not so important question.
As you can see from the attached screenshot I have added an indicator that I have “designed” to the planetary stationary bars. In the structure panel you can see that I had to add the three planetary stationary “Show View” tools also to the indicator window since the three planetary stationary “Show View” tools of the chart panel are not extended to the indicator window. No “Line Over All Views” function.
I have set the “Price Scale Margin” to 0% so all the planetary stationary “Show View” bars are drawn from top to bottom of the chart. So far so fine.
On the screenshot you can also see that on the top of the indicator window the “planetary stationary bars” are NOT drawn to the top of the indicator window.
Is there a way to draw the “planetary stationary bars” to the top of the indicator window or is this “top space” reserved for the header of the indicator window?
As already mentioned this is not so important but if possible I want to know it.
Again a lot of thanks,
You must be logged in to reply to this topic.